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We can't win Taliban war - UK chief
Press Assoc. - Sunday, October 5 03:10 amThe public should not expect "a decisive military victory" in Afghanistan, Britain's most senior military commander in the country has warned.

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Brigadier Mark Carleton-Smith said the aim was to reduce the uprising to a level at which it could be managed by the Afghan army - and made clear that this could involve talking to the Taliban.

It was necessary to "lower our expectations" and accept that it would be unrealistic to expect that multinational forces can entirely rid Afghanistan of armed bands, he suggested.

Brig Carleton-Smith, the commander of 16 Air Assault Brigade, which has just completed its second tour of Afghanistan, told the Sunday Times that his forces had "taken the sting out of the Taliban for 2008".

But he added: "We're not going to win this war. It's about reducing it to a manageable level of insurgency that's not a strategic threat and can be managed by the Afghan army.

"We may well leave with there still being a low but steady ebb of rural insurgency."

Brig Carleton-Smith said the aim should be to change the nature of the debate in Afghanistan so that disputes were settled by negotiation and not violence.

"If the Taliban were prepared to sit on the other side of the table and talk about a political settlement, then that's precisely the sort of progress that concludes insurgencies like this," he said.

"That shouldn't make people uncomfortable."
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:56 pm
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I think that is something that a lot of people realised some time ago?? so why the hell are we still there? get our guys out of there NOW
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:17 am
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GEEE he has found out.... thats amazing
I know some guys are SLOW but this is snail pace I gree TAF get our guys out while we still have some left.
You never know what they have onder that TURBAN
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Extract from PM interview 2006

Well let me just make one thing clear. If the Commanders on the ground want more equipment, armoured vehicles for example, more helicopters, that will be provided. Whatever package they want, we will do.

The Government has failed to keep its promise to the Troops, so therefore I totally agree with Tafscot,,, Pull our Troops out ASP and get them home where they belong!!! Have we learned no lessons since the Ireland excercise???

Yes we know that we went into Afganistan after the 9/11 incident in 2001, and yes we know that Afghanistan was the training ground for al Qaeda and the Taliban, it is time now that the population took control of its own affairs. The only reason we (Great Britian) has been attacked is because of our involvement in both Iraq and Afganistan.
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Well said Chris
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:28 pm
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The red army did not defeat them they pulled out, so why can't we. We do not want another northern ireland. The message to brown pull our troops out now and send them back to their families.
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its taken the brass all this time to realise what we all have known for ages. if the blinking russians cant do it how on earth can we with our very limited armed forces, it will probably take the brass another five years to bring the lads home , ginger,
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Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:21 pm
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WWI & WWII are good war's to look at the Germans invaded loods of countrys and they met a lot of resistance and ended up loseing.

Lessen lernt you cant fight a war in another persons land


Now some one Finaly saw sence WE cant Win this damb WAR in Afganistan.
We could have told him that in the begining instead of getting all those MEN killed.

Now lets bring the guys HOME before they start playing DIRTY.

As I have a feeling if it goes on mutch longer they will.
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